Les Croupiers Running Club Forum

Completely agree Angela. There should be one set of prizes and one set of times regardless of gender. :-)

It is in the section 'Information for Elites' don't know how i found myself looking there! They have designated times worthy of a bonus which is comendable but in my view the prize money should be equal.

Time bonuses:
Men Prize Money Women
Sub 60 mins £2,000 / £1,250 Sub 67 mins
Sub 61 mins £1,500 / £1,000 Sub 68 mins
Sub 62 mins £750 Sub 69 mins

Ange - Alex Donald comes into club most Thursdays, and with the race so close will probably be in this Thursday.
You seem very persuasive - perhaps you can get him to fill in a club membership form at the same time.

I'm not sure its a fair way of doing it but i can see what they done.

The ratio of the total prize money for times for men to women equals the ratio of male runners to female runners.
(approx 5000 men runners finishers in 2013 / 3000 approx no of female finishers).. so is that a fair way of doing it.. the numbers / prizes are about a .6 ratio.

total prize for time male 4250 (to break a time)
total prize for time female 2500
ratio 4250/2500 ~ 0.6
total male finishes ~ 5000 / total female finishers ~ 3000 = 0.6

is that fair?

If the prizes were awarded based on the amount of finishers then that would be understandable James, but they aren't. They are awarded for achieving a specific time. Therefore they should reflect the effort taken to achieve that time.

I am no sports scientist and I have no idea if the following is true, however I suspect that for a woman to achieve a time of sub 67 minutes they are likely to have to be just as talented as a man who achieves sub 60 minutes. I would like to think they would both put in similar amounts of effort to manage those times.

If this is the case then Ange is absolutely right and prize money should be equal.

Mick makes a point regarding tennis and in specific Wimbledon which awards equal prize money for both men and women even though men play significantly longer matches as they play best of 5.

There is a decent article HERE that gives and opinion that I am minded to agree with that says the playing of 3 set matches in Grand Slams is one of the reason Womens tennis is in its current slump and that changing it to 5 set matches in all Grand Slams would boost the quality and respect given to Womens Tennis throughout the world, also taking out the antiquated notion that women do not deserve equal pay for an equal job.

I'm with Ange on this one. The women should get the same prize money as the men, even if it means reducing the mens prize money ;)

Any discussion on Equality is never going to end well. Someone is bound to say something that upsets somebody else. Let's just put the inequality in time bonuses down to the fact that Men are more needy than women !!!! We need to feel like we are worth more because of our insecurities AND BECAUSE WE ARE SO MUCH MORE BLOODY AWESOME THAN YOU LOT !!!!!! Lol.

Mick - THAT'S how you light the blue touch paper !!!!!

(Disclaimer - The above post is a JOKE and in no way reflects my true feelings. Don't want to upset the more sensitive MALE members !!!!!)

Speaking of prizes I am still waiting for my prize for the mile championship from last year so if anyone sees Alex Donald please be sure and mention it to him, thanks!

For those wanting to know the outcome:-

"We will ensure that all future bonuses are the same for men and women"

I thank Cardiff Half organisers for their prompt attention and communication.