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after only 5 months being back running my foot, knee and hip are starting to play me up .... im starting to think maybe theres something wrong with the way i run and maybe i need to check it out .... has anyone been to ACE FEET and what do you reckon of the place and of course prices! thanks!
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There's a fair few of us who have used their services. Yes it's worth going but bear in mind, as you will see elsewhere on these forum threads, that problems can be attributed to more than just the feet. Problems can originate within the back / hips and manifest themselves within the legs and feet. A visit to a high quality sports specialist physio would be worthwhile. I reckon you know this already! Edited by user 19 September 2013 21:26:13(UTC)
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Amanda is correct. I've had several sets of orthotics. The first set was prescribed and fitted by John Allen in London, a sports physio / podiatrist, to sort out a problem with my knee after which I ran my best times. After coming down to Cardiff, I was fitted with a set from another (name on request) podiatrist which resulted in a stress fracture in my back! More or less the same thing happened to Alan Walton in SanDom. I then saw Andrew in ACE who sorted me out and I ran reasonably ok for a few years. This year I've had more trouble with gait / hamstrings possibly caused by sorting my knee. That being said if you've tried the physio option, I'd go and see ACE.
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I've used ace before, he is excellent at what he does. i have had orthotrics and now dont need them.. he will only prescribe them if you need them.. i was amazed when he said to me you dont need them..
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Just a heads up Andrew is in high demand at the moment and I was informed last week when I made an appointment that he is off to the warmer climates of Dubai very soon to work :-)
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I can only speak for myself, but for me they were an absolute lifesaver. Worth every penny. |
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Lee, I'm sure many will totally disagree with me but very few people need orthotics or motion control trainers. Most issues do not occur at the feet but higher up. Wearing orthotics is like a band aid and generally treats the symptom not the cause.
For example, if you pelvic muscles are not functioning correctly (glute med/min) then your thigh/knee will roll inwards leading to your foot 'over' pronate. Putting a device in your shoe does not, can not change that. Yes your foot may not roll in now but the dysfunction at the pelvis is still happening.
So, what generally happens is that you alter the stress at one point allowing you to train/race pain free... for a while. Most runners will gladly accept this as it allows them to run without the issues that plagued them. Sooner or later though, you WILL develop issues elsewhere. For example, if you were getting pain in your foot/ankle/Achilles, then that may clear but later you will more than likely develop knee/hip or low back issues. All you have done is shift the problem to elsewhere but this can take some time to develop.
The only people that really need orthotics are those with congenital conditions or those that have suffered serious injury resulting in permanent disability/dysfunction.
I would make a good bet that those that swear by orthotics and the like that got rid of their initial issue, then suffered other problems.
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Martin that is very interesting. What if you get orthotics as the 'band aid' but are conscious that the problems originate elsewhere. Then work on improving / correcting those problem areas. It's unlikely any of us will ever be physically perfect so the best we can ever do it patch it up here and there whilst doing our upmost to have core strength and be well functioning where it counts.
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I would say no as once you start wearing something to alter your style, you are creating dysfunction elsewhere. And let's face it, most people (in my experience) will not stick at a rehab programme more than a few weeks.
I also believe that your body will adapt to minor imperfections over time. Just look at some of the runners at races you go to and (with respect) their awful running action/style. Training is all about our body adapting to progressive load but most people are impatient and do not apply the progressive part.
I try (in vain mostly) to get people to do core work AND strength work but runners in particular, just want to run.
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Ha, I forgot something that was glaringly obvious from you question Amanda. A podiatrist looks for foot strike predominantly so 'may' not be looking at your overall bio-mechanics. If they knew your pelvic muscles were not working correctly, why would they issue with orthotics and also say you need to strengthen certain muscles?
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I'm also not convinced that orthotics are the answer. If I did get them could I ever walk around the house bare foot? or wear flip flops all the time in the summer or on holiday...what about walking on the beach for 2weeks in the summer? would I have to wear them for life? Also I have spent 35yrs without them and now do the pro-orthotics people really think I should put a piece of plastic under one side of my foot? My body has adapted with the feet I got and now it has to adapt again...to me this would cause more problems than it solves... I would bet it is more a Placebo rather than a solution to a problem... I would be more convinced if they offered a money back guarantee...  .
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I agree that orthotics just mask a problem for a while I used to have them and they seemed great for a while but then thing would go pear shaped after a while. I wear minimal shoes now which so far is my best move injury wise.
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I had orthotics for two injury plagued years (Name of person available on request). Physio said ditch them...best decision I made. However it does seem to work for some people
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I find this a fascinating thread. I would not advocate one technique over another. I think if it shows anything we are all different & there are a multiplicity of ways of dealing with something & you need to explore all of them. A time consuming matter! |
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