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HRV-heart rate variability - Anybody familiar with this?
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Lyndon Tudor Maisey Offline
#1 Posted : 24 January 2015 10:06:08(UTC)
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I'm looking to get back into training after a layoff. How do I know the time is right and how can I be sure of not overdoing it?

HRV is something that has been tried and tested for years by professional athletes.It is now available to amateur athletes in the form of apps that can be used by buying finger sensors and receivers to pass the reading to a heart rate monitor.

The test is primarily used to prevent an athlete from overtraining. Not only can you monitor the stress on your body and take action if its excessive you can also aid performance by adapting better to the stresses on your body.The great thing about this is it factors in all stressors not just your training!

I tested myself using Ithlete. I haven't found anything to say this tech doesent work but hundreds of articles saying it does!

I did a random test as a control in the middle of the day and then a proper test this morning. I scored 92 on my control which I was very surprised by and then this morning 103!

One funky thing about Ithlete and Bioforce is that they do not report HRV using the common RMSSD measurement, but instead use lnRMSSDx20. That just means 20 times the natural logarithm of RMSSD. They chose this alternative metric in order to spread out the values and represent HRV using a more “natural” scale with 100 being something like perfect fitness. (Highly fit individuals could actually reach higher than 100 on this scale, but rarely).

I think I need to pull my finger out and start building training again! I still feel a bit lethargic but have had a good break so perhaps this is mostly in my head now.

Getting back to it is one thing but I have another change of job and a Marathon coming up so I need to use every tool at my disposal to stay fit, and training!

I thought Howard might be interested in this. I know many people frown on technology but as far as im concerned if you think it might help you and its within the rules then why not?

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#2 Posted : 24 January 2015 16:43:22(UTC)
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Lyndon good to hear you're looking to get back into it, but why not take the pressure off yourself initially whilst regaining aerobic fitness. Why not just leave all the gadgets at home and go out gadget-less and run to how you feel? Its a crazy notion I know. Trying to force your fitness recovery will likely increase risk of further set backs.

I love to be attached to my GPS when ever I got out but when I've had a lay-off due to injury and trying to get back into it I make a point of just going out to plod with no gadgets and its relaxed and enjoyable. I've noticed with myself as soon as I strap my GPS on I become focused on time/splits/pace etc which definately has its place but....
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#3 Posted : 24 January 2015 17:30:21(UTC)
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Lyndon good to hear you're looking to get back into it, but why not take the pressure off yourself initially whilst regaining aerobic fitness. Why not just leave all the gadgets at home and go out gadget-less and run to how you feel? Its a crazy notion I know. Trying to force your fitness recovery will likely increase risk of further set backs.

I love to be attached to my GPS when ever I got out but when I've had a lay-off due to injury and trying to get back into it I make a point of just going out to plod with no gadgets and its relaxed and enjoyable. I've noticed with myself as soon as I strap my GPS on I become focused on time/splits/pace etc which definately has its place but....



I get what your saying and I will do an easy ten like that tommorow. I was just looking for another way of protecting myself besides a more careful recovery plan.
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#4 Posted : 24 January 2015 20:30:05(UTC)
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Interesting but sounds overly complicated to me Lyndon...

I'm sure if you are a fit individual, your cardiovascular & physiological systems are perfectly capable of protecting themselves, provided you don't go raving mad! If you've had a layoff then have a progressive return to your normal training plan & see how you feel. If you overdo it you will soon know! From reading around the subject, a number of attempts have been made to use HR as a predictor for training & overtraining & the results seem controversial. There's a certain amount of hype involved here.

I've said it before & I'll say it again, if you are interested in this sort of technical stuff get Lore of Running by Tim Noakes. It's about 15 quid & if you don't like it you can use it as a door stop!

Very best of luck with your return to fitness! BigGrin

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